Thursday, 31 March 2011

Intellectual Giants Like Cory Bernardi MP and Islam

Look at this genius Liberal MP Cory Bernardi another expert on Islam, he states,
"... Islam as a totalitarian ideology has warned that Australians at odds with the "politically correct" orthodoxy are being forced to whisper their views for fear of being labelled racists.” Cory Bernardi has also demanded, “migrants observe Australian customs and core values,” urging the nation to reject a path of "isolation and separatism" by tolerating breaches of the nation's "social covenant" by newcomers... “Islam itself is the problem, it's not Muslims. Muslims are individuals that practise their faith in their own way, but Islam is a totalitarian, political and religious ideology....This has the effect of silencing people because they are afraid of being intimidated and ridiculed. In effect, they are reduced to whispering their views to others... Those who speak publicly, - normally these are people of a conservative or traditional viewpoint - are too often shouted down, mocked and derided simply for expressing a viewpoint that does not align with the prevailing PC orthodoxy,"
Now I could well write a thesis on his comments but I think I would bore you to death by repeating the same old counter arguments.  However, I will touch on several points.  On what evidence does he form the opinion that Islam is a “totalitarian ideology” ?

Is he aware Islam gave women rights well before the Europeans even considered women as human’s ?  Women in Europe were men’s property up until a couple of hundred years or so ago.

He further demands, "migrants [should] observe Australian customs and core values,"  "urging the nation to reject a path of “isolation and separatism" by tolerating breaches of the nation's "social covenant" by newcomers. 

Well I would like for him to tell me exactly what are Australia’s customs and core values?  Getting pissed on Friday and Saturday nights beating the crap out of each other ? Gambling away the mortgage or rent payments and then coming home and flogging your wife ? or gathering at Cronulla Beach yelling out to all Lebanese to leave Australia then chasing down and beating Indian students thinking them to be Lebanese ? 
Perhaps it’s football, meat pies, kangaroos and Holden cars ? 

As with newcomers how new just off Ashmore Reef ? 10 years ago, 20 years ago?  or 100 – 200 years ago ?  The reason being with a surname like Bernardi I can see how he would have a claim in the Native Titles List in the High Court of Australia, him and his heritage wouldn’t be new to Australia at all.

No doubt, they arrived well before all those MUSLIM AFGHANI’s brought out here in the 1800’s with camels to open up the nation he must be talking about them and their families.   That leads me onto “Social Covenant”

I want him to explain to me in detail what this “Social Covenant” is he is talking about ? Is it the fact that Western Australia has jailed more black people then the entire time the South African Government was under the Apartheid regime ? Does he want us to jail more Indigenous Australian’s ? Perhaps he means we take all their children away and raise them to be good white Australians ?

You see if this issue was not so serious, I could well laugh at Bernardi’s stupidity.  I could well tell him to go back to the Capital of Paedophilia the Vatican.  However, there are people in Australia who are even more stupid then Bernardi and actually believe what idiot’s like him say.  This is what causes division in Australian society, marginalisation, disenfranchisement, and a siege mentality, them versus us.

Ultimately, it falls directly into the hands of the extremist Muslims and his speech becomes a poster for Al Qaeda types recruitment.  Well done you idiot Bernardi.  What angers me most of all is that people like Bernardi who have I.Q.’s somewhere between that of a rock and a flower, (at least a flower grows towards the sunlight) can not differentiate between POLITICS and RELIGION. 

Just like that other famous idiot “Newt Gingrich” look at what he said,
Gingrich worries the USA will become a "secular atheist country... dominated by radical Islamists” Don’t believe me check out this web site :-

Those terrorists and criminals who happen to follow the Islamic faith killing innocent men women and children are hiding behind the veil of Islam, misinterpreting the Quran and fooling young impressionable Islamic minds in order to join their evil cause.  They have Political Agenda’s NOT RELIGIOUS YOU IDIOT.

Now somebody is going to jump up and say those terrorists in London some of them were from well off families and they had University qualifications.  To that argument I say, being marginalised makes people do all sorts of things.  If we pretend that everybody is equal in our society, however the truth is that some people are more equal than others you will get those types of well-educated young people from middle class Islamic families joining the terrorists’ cause.

Why do you ask ? The answer is easy when a person named Abdullah keeps being ignored for a promotion and the person named John. Michael or Cory keeps jumping him, what happens ? Abdullah although he has studied, fit into society and then comes across the “Islamic Ceiling” he loses hope. 

People without hope and nothing to lose are the most dangerous people, they don’t care if they live or die. What Bernardi and his ilk do is suck all the hope away from Islamic communities and their youth by calling them (implicitly) terrorists, or new comers.

Many thousands of Islamic people that live in Australia today were actually born here, many more thousands didn’t have a choice they were brought out here by their parents. Now it’s easy for Bernardi to suggest if you don’t like it here go back.

Well we could well say the same to him.  How can those thousands of Islamic people that were born here or brought out as young children growing up in Australia go back ?  They are not accepted in their countries of origin because of their Australian Heritage and they are not accepted here because of the likes of Bernardi because they don’t eat pork.

Bernardi and his ilk remind me of the proverbial “Highway Patrolman” everybody that’s driven long enough knows what I am talking about.  The type that needs a Frontal Lobotomy in order to do the job. Drive around the same old streets day after day week after week, like last lap Louie, hiding in the bushes like cockroaches only to catch Mr and Mrs Average doing 10K’s over the speed limit.  Then they walk over as if in Hitler’s SS and treat you like crap.   

The Detectives have a term for them, “Jury F@#kers” because they tend to “F@#k up” their juries.  That is one of the only times an average person has dealings with Police, it’s when they are either a victim of crime, witness, or being given a Traffic Ticket.  That unpleasant treatment remains in the average person’s mind and then they get called up for jury duty. End result they already have a bias against police.  Well Bernardi congratulations because you have effectively joined that esteemed group.

You see Australia is a country where Human Rights are mostly adhered to. Bernardi has the Freedom of Speech or he should have.  Well I say the same I should also have the Freedom of Speech and call Bernardi a “Wanker of the First Order” due to his views. 

However, Human Rights are only one side of the coin.  Human Responsibilities the other.  Most people like Bernardi harp on and nag about Human Rights and Freedom of Speech when it suits them, trying to take the high moral ground. 

They never consider their responsibilities or my rights in not being called a “Wog” or “Terrorist” because of what faith I chose to follow.  He will argue that he never called me such terms or would never use those terms, that he is not racist at all.  However, what he is doing is dog whistling to all the raving racists out there and trying to fire them up.  The likes of “Jack Van Tongren” and his ilk.

Australia is still a very tolerant country regardless of the underlying racism that the likes of Bernardi dog whistle to.  We are far more tolerant than all those European Nations and the U.S.

However, letting types like Bernardi have a public platform only endangers all of us and our communities.  The reason is simple, although there has not been an actual act of Islamic terrorism carried out in Australia, with the likes of Bernardi inciting hatred causing Mosques and Synagogues to be attacked, it is only a matter of time when a catastrophic act is carried out either by his intended white supremacist audience ala an Australian version Timothy James McVeigh or a more intelligent determined Muslim group.  In either case, those that suffer will not be Bernardi hiding in his Ivory tower it will be innocents as per usual.
Consider that as food for thought.


Looks like Bernardi has achieved his goal all the racists and extremist Muslims are out in cyber space going for it WELL DONE BERNARDI YOU IDIOT.

Liberal MP says debate being stifled over 'racism' fears

Cory Bernardi
Liberal MP Cory Bernardi says national debate is being stifled as people fear being labelled racist. Picture: Brett Hartwig Source: The Daily Telegraph
THE Liberal senator widely attacked for describing Islam as a totalitarian ideology has warned that Australians at odds with the "politically correct" orthodoxy are being forced to whisper their views for fear of being labelled racists.
South Australian senator Cory Bernardi has also demanded migrants observe Australian customs and core values, urging the nation to reject a path of "isolation and separatism" by tolerating breaches of the nation's "social covenant" by newcomers.

But the nation's first Muslim MP, Sydney's Ed Husic, has rejected the comments, saying no-one needs to whisper opinions that represent considered and thoughtful argument.

Last month Senator Bernardi said in a radio interview: "Islam itself is the problem, it's not Muslims. Muslims are individuals that practise their faith in their own way, but Islam is a totalitarian, political and religious ideology."

The comments provoked a storm of critics, with Julia Gillard accusing the Liberals of "race-baiting" and demanding Tony Abbott dump Senator Bernardi as his parliamentary secretary.

Yesterday Senator Bernardi launched an impassioned defence of his stance on his website in a blog titled "The Whisper Zone".

"Those who speak publicly, - normally these are people of a conservative or traditional viewpoint - are too often shouted down, mocked and derided simply for expressing a viewpoint that does not align with the prevailing PC orthodoxy," Senator Bernardi wrote.

"This has the effect of silencing people because they are afraid of being intimidated and ridiculed.

In effect, they are reduced to whispering their views to others." Mr Husic, who holds the seat of Chifley, said Australia was a democracy where people were free to express their views.

"But in doing so, we should also be mindful that what we say, where these views may not be based on fact, can cause hurt or marginalise," Mr Husic told The Australian Online.

"People in public life have to be especially conscious of this. "I'd respectfully suggest there's no need to whisper considered, thoughtful argument."

"If one's views aren't based on fact or are indifferent to others in a rush to make a headline, then perhaps keeping those views to oneself is the best course of action."

Senator Bernardi said he was not precious or thin-skinned, but noted that it seemed publicly acceptable for Labor MPs like Kevin Rudd and Chris Evans, as well as independent senator Nick Xenophon, to express concerns about particular groups, while he was shouted down for expressing his views.

"If the cost of raising legitimate community concerns, whether or not others actually agree with the question raised, leads to lies, smears, irrational accusations of racism and bigotry, then we really do have a problem with free speech in this country," he wrote.

Friday, 25 March 2011

The Red Neck Yobbos out in Force Again

It's been a long while since I last posted, much has happened during that time.  However, I'm now back and I will endeavour to post regularly once again. My first new topic is yet again about Haters.  This time haters of all things Islamic, Melbourne Anglican vicar Mark Durie. (Read his article below.)

The Honourable Vicar comes out with the old "Islam is a religion of Hate and Violence" article, and of course all the red neck yobbos in "White Anglo Australia" come to his defence.  Now don't get me wrong here, there are many good white Anglo Australians who are well educated and cultured.  However the vast majority of the "Haters" in Australia come from that "White Anglo" background. Remember the Cronulla Riots ? Or better still do a survey on racism is South East Asia about Australia and who they find to be racist.

The good Vicar fails to understand the religion and makes all the usual arguments, he fails to mention that out of the thousands upon thousands of Muslims living in Australia, there has yet to be any act of terrorism.  Note I say any "ACT" of terrorism, and not planned acts of terrorism.

I don't count the few Afghanis who shot up some train in the early 1900's at Broken Hill NSW in relation to World War I in a futile attempt to enter that war on the Ottoman Empire's side.  I may have the details wrong there but you can check it up.  Other than that one incident I don't know of any event in Australia where a Muslim group or groups have acted out an event of terrorism.  (That's even if you could consider those Afghani's actions back in the early 1900's as terrorism).

However, lets look at some actual groups committing acts of terrorism in Australia ;-
  1. Jack van Tongeren fire bombings and other incidents,
  2. Sydney Hilton bombing (Ananda Marga – Ross Dunn and Paul Alister Tim Anderson),
  3. Melbourne Turkish consulate bombing 1986 by Christian Armenians,
  4. Murder of Turkish Consul Sarik Ariyak & Driver Engin Sever 12 Dec 1980 by Armenian Christians,.
  5. Peter James Knight murdered a security guard,
  6. Many many attacks on Mosques and Synagogues.
One only need google the above details and you will find all the necessary information readily available on the net.  You don't even need to research the old fashion way via libraries, journals or original source documents because they are so well known.

There have been far more acts of terrorism committed by Christians and other groups in Australia as compared to Muslims.  Are all people of the Muslim faith good, NO of course not, I am not defending my religion here.  What I am doing is putting things into perspective.  One of the comments at the end of Vicar Durie's article stated, "Not all Muslims are Terrorists, but ALL Terrorists are Muslim" well from the above examples found in only a matter of minutes on the net rather than detailed research shows "NOT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIM" 

So I ask the good Vicar and all his Red Neck Yobbo Bogan supporters out there who is the more dangerous here in Australia ?  Who are you more likely to be killed by ? A Muslim Terrorist or a Terrorist from another faith ? (Regardless of how small a probability, you have a higher probability of being killed by a coconut falling on your head then a terrorist in Australia BUT the question is rhetorical and academic)

You see I don't blame the good Vicar entirely, (Not because he reminds me of the old Dave Allen comedy show) I blame the Western Media.  All too often they focus on all the evil deeds done by certain Muslims and forget all the good deeds done by Muslims in Australia and world wide. 

For example,  John Ilhan the richest man under 40 years of age in Australia prior to his death was Muslim, employing thousands of Christian and other Australians, Ahmed Fahour former CEO of the NAB, Safwan Khalil, Aziza Abdel-Halim. A.M. NSW, Fadle El-Harris NSW, Hussam Elmaghraby VIC, Subhi Alshaik NSW, Dr Bircan Erbas VIC, Mustafa Ally QLD, Nazeem Hussain VIC, and many many others.

However most normal Australians (I'm not referring here to the brain dead, moronic, red neck yobbos with I.Q.s lower than room temperature here) would know very few if any at all of the above listed names let alone the many other Muslims who have contributed significantly to the Australian Community.

Why you may ask ?  Answer: The media, because who wants to know how many people John Ilhan employed or what sports event a Muslim represented Australia in ?  These just don't sell papers or draw viewers.

It's better to report on "Jihad Jack" or "David Hicks" (who may I add is NOT a terrorist) the true terrorist in those unfortunate circumstances is the U.S. Government.  Can anybody in Australia imagine incarcerating a person under the conditions he was in at Guantanamo Bay without even being charged for five years ?  How is that fair ? How does that stand up to our legal system the common law system and it's values ? But lets not go there that's another topic entirely.

So in short most Muslims I know blame the Western Media for the biased view and stereotype they cast Muslims in, not the poor simple idiots that have no inquiring mind referring to themselves as true patriotic Australians.  Unless their skin is black those red neck yobbos will never be "True Patriotic Australians" now I'm not even going to go there either because that again is another topic entirely.

Cheers to my mates from a Muslim Australian.

Muslim violence a fact, not prejudice

Mark Durie
SMH March 25, 2011
Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri, the bodyguard arrested for the killing of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer, shouts religious slogans while being taken away by police after he was presented at a court in Islamabad. Malik Mumtaz Hussain QadriSalman Taseer, shouts religious slogans while being taken away by police after he was presented at a court in Islamabad. Photo: Reuters

Those who denounce critics of Islam should allow that, like all global faiths, Islam has its detractors and a religion will be judged on what its followers say and do.
There is a debate going on about Islam. The question being asked is: Does Islam itself - not just poverty or social exclusion - provide ideological fuel for extremism and violence?
Melbourne Anglican vicar Mark Durie. Melbourne Anglican vicar Mark Durie.

Vicar Durie's part time job.

It is all too tempting to promote one-dimensional explanations of religious violence. Monash University doctoral candidate Rachel Woodlock said on this page on Wednesday that social exclusion was the root of Islamic radicalism.
On one hand, there are those who, like Woodlock, demand that critics of Islam be stigmatised as ignorant, right-wing racists. On the other hand, Islam's problems cannot be simplistically reduced to social or economic factors.
Violence in the name of Islam is well-attested in nations in which Muslims are dominant, and it is non-Muslim minorities that suffer the exclusion. It does not do to argue that religion has no relevance to such events.
In Muslim-majority Pakistan on December 3, Pakistani imam Maulana Yousuf Qureshi, in his Friday sermon, offered a $6000 bounty to anyone who would murder Asia Bibi, a Christian woman who has also been accused of ''blaspheming Allah''. Pakistani minister for minorities Shahbaz Bhatti and Punjab governor Salman Taseer were subsequently assassinated because of their opposition to Pakistan's blasphemy laws.
These laws are supported by Pakistan's Islamic elites. The killer of Salman Taseer, Mumtaz Qadri, was praised by religious leaders from mainstream schools of Pakistani Islam, and when he was being led to court on January 6, 400 Muslim lawyers showered him with rose petals, offering him their legal services free of charge.
There has also been a rush of recent assaults on Copts and their places of worship in Egypt, sparked by a wild tirade by a leading Egyptian cleric.
Closer to Australia, there have been well-publicised attacks on Ahmadiyah Muslims in Indonesia, including brutal murders. These were undoubtedly influenced by a theological belief that Ahmadiyah adherents are apostates from true Islam. Although prominent Indonesian leaders were quick to express abhorrence for the attacks, many Indonesian Muslims have called for Ahmadiyahs to be outlawed.
These events demonstrate the ugly effects of stigmatising minorities, and it would be deplorable to simple-mindedly extrapolate the religious views of Pakistani, Egyptian or Indonesian Muslims and apply them to Australia.
However, it is irrational to insist that any and everyone who seeks to expose the religious roots of such hatred must themselves be decried as haters.
All over the world, every religious belief is disliked by someone or other. Christianity has its prominent detractors, too, from Bertrand Russell to Richard Dawkins. A Google search for ''Evils of Christianity'' yields tens of thousands of hits.
Australians can be thankful for a culture of tolerance, which has been carefully nurtured over decades. Tolerance is strengthened when people are able to debate ideological issues freely - especially those which impact profoundly on human rights - without being shouted down.
Victorian Supreme Court Justice Geoffrey Nettle, in his findings on the case of the Islamic Council of Victoria v Catch the Fire, pointed out that criticism - or even hatred - of a religion should not be conflated with the hatred of people who hold those beliefs. It is one thing to promote tolerance, quite another to mandate it.
Perhaps the most powerful evidence against Woodlock's thesis - that it is exclusion, and not religion, that drives some Muslims to terrorism - is the fact that across the globe the most diverse religious minorities do not resort to violence, even when persecuted.
There are no Falun Gong terrorists in China, despite all the bitter persecution. The same can be said for persecuted Christians in many nations.
Even in Australia, many ethnic and religious groups have been subjected to disadvantage and exclusion, but none have produced the level of terrorist convictions of our own home-grown Islamic radicals.
It is a bitter pill for the vast majority of Australian Muslims to swallow that their faith has been linked, globally and locally, to religious violence.
Unfortunately, this link cannot be dismissed as the product of media prejudice or ''Islamophobic'' propaganda. It is in part an issue of some Muslims behaving very badly, and their often strident claim is that they do this in the name of religion.
Taking such claims seriously and debating them publicly must not be equated with stigmatising law-abiding and peaceable Australian Muslims.
Mark Durie is a Melbourne Anglican vicar, human rights activist, and author of The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom.